Week of 2005-08-19: Promivion ENMs | Clan of the Angry Monkey (FFXI)

Unable to finish

Submitted by Malkier on Sun, 09/25/2005 - 22:26.

I'm sorry for last night, due to a family issue I had to get off POL and couldn't help anymore than I did last night. I will still help today for as long as I can but I'm not sure if I'll be able to do both the ENM and promy run.

Again I'm sorry for the way I left yesterday but I really don't want to go into the whole reason, lets just say I had a difference of opinion with the person who pays the Internet bill.

Streamlining the ENM fight

Submitted by Tamara on Sun, 09/25/2005 - 20:29.

I would hope the Clan could streamline the ENM run-to-the-spire and subsequent ENM fight so participants could just show up in Jeuno for at least one ENM each weekend and collect their experience and be done.

The ENM fight should not be that complicated of an affair, when you stop to think about it. If you have some holy water, some poison potion, some antidote, some echo drops you should be equipped for any of the three ENM's. Food and hi-potions being optional, level 30 gear and all three Censers being mandatory. Seems like you don't even need a fixed party size, since experience-given is apparently decreased for alliances.

It is Boss Fights and Anima which are complicating things. =^_^=

I may be in luck

Submitted by mAdBoY on Fri, 09/23/2005 - 15:15.

We are traveling to Tuscaloosa for the football game Saturday, but the game has been moved to 12:30EST. We may or may not be back in time Saturday, but I should be available for the run Sunday night definitely. We are leaving first thing Monday morning for Florida, so I won't be available all night. So looking forward to a run or two.

/Joy

Submitted by Malkier on Fri, 09/23/2005 - 00:38.

YESSSSSSSSSS!!! I get off work on Saturday at 3:30 pm so I'll get home around 4:00ish. I can come for Sunday also Because I get off at 6:30 pm. So if we start at 7ish I can come then too. :0

EXP Party In Promyvion Areas?

Submitted by rooster on Wed, 09/21/2005 - 19:29.

Here's a novel idea: How about earning some serious experience points while farming animas? A party of six players can get some good exp on the third level without too much risk. A smaller party might do well on level two. Think about it... We need animas anyway and since its level capped its easy to put together a party. No need to worry about finding folks with just the right jobs and level. Anyone with any job over level 30 can easily participate. All thats really needed is tank, healer, and someone with ranged attacks to pull and kill strays. The other slots could be filled with just about any jobs. Let me know if anyone wants to give this a try. -Thersites

Yep

Submitted by sam on Thu, 09/22/2005 - 15:58.

This exact thing has been discussed before... and I've always thought it was a good idea. In fact, the most recent patch increased the EXP available in these areas, so it really can work better now.

The way I see it, there are pros and cons to this.

Pros:

Cheap leveling. You don't have to buy any other gear other than your level 30 gear.
Predictable leveling. None of this "what should we fight" and "where should we camp" nonesense. You just pick the same camp and prey each time.
Safe leveling. If you die, you lose EXP at a 30 cap. Which means if you are really a 60 job you will lose considerably less EXP than if you died at 60.

Cons:

No skill-ups. You're skill-capped at 30 as well... which means you wont get any skill-ups past 30. This means that you will be limitted to the weaponskills you can get at 30 (and may never get the others).
Max of 300 EXP. The absolute most you can get in EXP chains is 300 at 30. Past 50 this ups to something like 350-400 (I forget exactly which). So, if you job is 60, for example, it may take longer to get that 18k you need for 61.

In all honesty, considering the pros and the cons, I'd say that for a job that may be your sub and you never intend on leveling something like this would be ideal. For example, I'd love to get my WAR to 37 this way :-)

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I need them!

Submitted by Malkier on Wed, 09/21/2005 - 16:14.

I need all of the Promys, however I'll have to check my schedual later this week, most likly Webnesday to know if I am available for Sunday, and Saturday night. I can bring WHM/BLM, and this time I won't pull hate off the Tanks. I should be available to farm Friday.
Again I will check my work Schedual and get back to you.

As a WHM would I need any of the Anima? I will also buy a Reraise Ring so I won't have to get a scroll.

Anima

Submitted by Tamara on Wed, 09/21/2005 - 19:24.

Everyone in the party tosses Anima.

It appears to have a shorter range than spells, I have to run up close to toss my Anima at the Spire Boss.

Anima

Submitted by sam on Wed, 09/21/2005 - 17:16.

I'd recommend everyone getting anima. If everyone has it, and uses it strategically, you can prevent the boss from doing any real damage to your team for most (if not all) of the fight.

That's why we want to head out and farm... because these battles go so much more smoothly if everyone has the anima.

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http://maior.samhart.net/

Weekend ENM's (and maybe Boss Runs)

Submitted by Tamara on Mon, 09/19/2005 - 19:10.

Sundays will in the future likely be a no-go time for me but *IF* Thersites is tanking I want to be in on this Run/Fight/ENM/Whatever. I've seen Tanks just drop from Promy Bosses but Thersites takes a lickin' and just keeps on tickin'! LOL!

So I am up for farming Anima on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It's easy - just takes two people to farm on floating island one. One Exception: I don't farm for or make Terroanima anymore, I view Terroanima as mostly worthless and I need the storage slot. If the Boss goes after a Mage toss a combo of the other two Anima in this situation and the Mage can pat the Boss on his head for a bit.

I now have all Promyvion Spires but I want to help the Clan out. I am generally available for Promyvion Boss Fights and ENM Fights most nights except Wednesdays and Sundays (sometimes I can make a Sunday exception). I am willing to spend my gil on potions and anima and food and Reraise Earrings to make these Boss Fights work. Also you can generally expect me to ask if Thersites will be Tanking =^_^=

A ENM/Boss Fight combo is the Way To Go if you ask me! Anywho I will be dropping by to check if Thersites is making this run.

"Unlike BCNMs, however, they do not require any special items for entrance."
ENM's require 'Censers' to get inside. So folks don't forget to visit Vanessa? up in the Gardens on the highest level of Jeuno for your Censers (all 3) if you want to participate in ENM's! We fought 3 ENM's this past weekend and I checked Key Items, all 3 of my Censers were consumed! In five days Vanessa should restore them if I ask politely and I can go back for 3 more ENM fights.

/waves to_the_Clan

-Tamara
WHM34/SMN17 capped to 30 by Promyvion

Thersites will be there Sunday

Submitted by rooster on Tue, 09/20/2005 - 22:59.

Thanks for your encouraging words Tamara! I think you are a great WHM too! These promy missions started going alot better when Tamara joined the link shell. I will be available for promy/enm this Sunday but not Saturday. I can go as WAR/NIN or RNG/NIN.

Tamara for Sunday Promyvion

Submitted by Tamara on Wed, 09/21/2005 - 00:59.

I'll go with Thersites on the Sunday Promyvion Run.

As I understand it the Clan will be gathering in Jeuno, Sunday at 8PM Eastern. The run is to be a DEM Spire Run,
followed by the DEM ENM Fight,
followed by the DEM Spire Boss Fight
(if I read the above correctly).

So Maior as RNG/NIN? Thersites as WAR/NIN? Tamara as WHM/SMN? Others?

If we can get 12 Clan folks for the run, two parties of six for two ENM fights that would be great. Before the ENM fight we need to designate a party of six to remain for those who desire a victory against the Dem Spire Boss. This is because on exiting the ENM you are given an option to Exit Promyvion - would hate for anyone to be stuck in Promyvion Spire with DeAtH their only option out.

I will get Censers and Anima and Potions and ReRAISE in advance of Sunday (no Terroanima for me).

And as a small point to mention:
when the ENM Fight is over do not move, do not breathe, do not touch the pretty glowing sphere until the WHM tells you to do so! He/She may have folks to RAISE, first!

LOL!

WAR/NIN

Submitted by sam on Wed, 09/21/2005 - 14:00.

In all honesty, I'd prefer to go as WAR/NIN for the ENMs. My RNG is not a job I intend on leveling too much now, but my WAR needs to be leveled for my MNK sub.

If we go up in two teams, I'll try to be the WAR/NIN for the second team. If, however, we only have one team, I'll just be RNG/NIN. (Unless I am not needed there).

Personally, I say we don't do the boss fight unless we have someone in the party who needs it. If everyone in the party has Dem, then there's no reason to risk losing the EXP for it. I mean, other than completing the mission and maybe attempting server record, what other reason is there to attempt the spire bosses?

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Spire Boss Fights

Submitted by Tamara on Wed, 09/21/2005 - 19:30.

I only fight a Spire Boss if at least one person in the party says they have not beat that/this Boss; otherwise it is just an ENM run to me.

This yields the question: why fight the Holla ENM? The Holla run is very much a minefield of Empty waiting to aggro players.

Holla

Submitted by sam on Thu, 09/22/2005 - 15:59.

If no one needs Holla, then the only reason I see to go to Holla is to farm anima (the two most important anima you need can be found on the first floor of Holla, unlike the other two).

Now, this doesn't mean you ascend the tower or anything... just farm.

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http://maior.samhart.net/

Censers

Submitted by sam on Mon, 09/19/2005 - 19:40.

Ah, that's right... I forgot that they require key items. I'll fix that.

Also, terroanimas are by no means useless. They just aren't as useful as the others (which is why I suggested Holla to farm).

Terroanimas are great for hate management or for use in ENM fights to let a mage heal up MP. The reason they suck during boss fights is because they can render most 2 hour attacks worthless. Thus, using them in a boss fight is incredibly risky and usually not worth it.

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